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Damage Control - measures necessary to keep the ship afloat, fighting, and in operating condition. Dark adapted - said of one's eyes when they have been optimized for seeing in the dark. The condition comes from spending several minutes with the eyes open in an area that is dark or illumniated only by dim red lights.
Flashlights aboard ship often have red lenses, to avoid their destroying the dark adaption of those who see their light. Darken ship - condition where all the ship's external lights are extinguished, and all inside lights are prevented from being seen from outside. In peacetime, allows all hands topside to appreciate the beauty of the heavens and the phosphoresence of the sea.
In wartime, keeps the enemy from seeing the ship. Davit - shipboard crane for lowering and raising boats. The officer responsible, under the Chief Engineer, for damage control and stability of a ship. Dead in the water - said of a ship that is underway but making no headway or sternway.
Dead reckoning - navigator's estimate of the position of the ship from the course steered and the distance run. Short for "deductive reckoning. Deadhead - the resistance of a magnetic compass to swinging back and forth excessively; a compass with insufficient deadhead will swing so much due to normal movement of the ship or aircraft that it is difficult to steer a course. Debarkation station - the place on a ship where personnel assemble to debark in boats.
On ships where debarkation is a major part of the mission, debarkation stations are marked by numbers on colored backgrounds, the numbers and colors having a specific organization. Deck - on a ship, corresponds to the floor of a building on land. Decks below the main deck are the second deck, third deck, and so on, moving downward. Decks above the main deck are the 01 deck, 02 deck, and so on, moving upward. Also refers to work or personnel mainly involved with deck seamanship.
Deck gray - dark color used to paint decks aboard ship. Haze gray is used on vertical surfaces. Deck hands - personnel, usually Seamen and Boatswain's Mates, who work with and care for topside gear and equipment. A deck hand is sometimes called a deck ape. It is traditional that the first log entry of a new year is made in verse. Deck seamanship - branch of seamanship embracing the practical side, from the simplest rudiments of knot tying up to navigation; includes small-boat handling, ground tackle, steering, heaving the lead, signaling, etc.
Deep six - euphemism for throwing something overboard. Originally, the call of the leadsman signifying that the water is more than six fathoms deep, but less than seven. Degaussing - treating the ship to reduce its magnetic field; used to protect the ship from magnetic mines. Department Head - an officer reporting to the Executive Officer and responsible for a department of the ship's organization. Most mid-sized ships have an operations department, a navigation department, a gunnery or deck department, an engineering department, and a supply department.
Larger ships may have more, and smaller ships fewer, departments. Deploy - to move into position for battle or other purposes. A ship or a sailor can deploy to the Mediterranean, for example. Depth charge - large explosive charge used against submarines. It is dropped or launched from a ship, and explodes upon reaching a preset depth. Deviation - magnetic compass error caused by the magnetic effect of metal in the ship. Dilligaff - Do I look like I give a flying fuck? Usually a short-timer's attitude.
Direct fire - gunnery and fire control where the fall of shot can be directly observed by the firing unit. Distance line - a light line stretched between two ships engaged in replenishment or similar operations when underway.
The line is marked at 20' intervals to aid the conning officer in maintaining the proper distance between ships. Distress signal - a flag display or a sound, light, or radio signal calling for assistance. Ditty bag - small cloth bag with drawstring closure; usually used to hold toilet articles and the like. Division - the smallest organizational unit aboard a ship. Usually consists of one or more officers plus a group of men responsible for a particular part of the ship's work.
Also, an organization composed of two or more ships of the same type; two or more divisions make up a squadron. Division officer - the officer in charge of a division. Newly-commissioned officers often seek this responsibility, since it is the first step to assuming command at sea. Dog - metal fitting used to tighten down watertight doors, hatch covers, scuttles, etc.
Generally, there are two two-hour watches, designated First and Second Dog Watches, arranged so that personnel on watch can eat the evening meal. They usually run from to and to They also serve to alternate the daily watch routine so men with the midwatch one night will not have it the next time.
Dolphins - the warfare insignia of the submarine fleet. Aka tin tunas or pukin' fish. Represented as two heraldic dolphins flanking the prow of a WWII-type submarine, gold for officers and silver for enlisted. Down by the head or stern - said of a ship that is not level in the water from bow to stern. A ship that is down by the head has her bow lower in the water than her stern. Down the hatch - this drinking expression seems to have its origins in sea freight, where cargoes are lowered into the hatch.
First used by seamen, it has only been traced back to the start of the twentieth century. Draft - the depth of water from the surface to the bottom of a ship's keel. Depends, to an extent, on how heavily the ship is loaded. Drifty - said of a sailor who is not squared away. Probably comes from adrift.
Drill - a shipboard evolution used to practice and develop skills; includes fire drills, general quarters drills, man overboard drills, abandon ship drills, and so forth. DRUNKEX - any evolution characterized more by the amount of alcohol consumption than by accomplishment of any goals other than getting toasted, of course.
Drydock - special dock used to facilitate repairs to the hull of a ship. The ship is floated into the drydock, which is then sealed off from the water. The water inside is pumped out, and the ship is left, high and dry, sitting on large wooden blocks in the bottom of the drydock.
Quite a sight to see. DTG - Date-Time Group; part of the header of a message which indicates the date, time, and timezone of the message's origin. Duffel - name given to a sailor's personal effects. Also spelled duffle , it referred to his principal clothing as well as to the seabag in which he carried and stowed it.
The term comes from the Flemish town of Duffel near Antwerp, and denotes a rough woolen cloth made there. A duffel bag is a rough cloth bag used to carry personal effects.
Dungarees - the blue-jean-like enlisted working uniform. The term dates to the 18th century and comes from the Hindi word dungri , for a type of Indian cotton cloth.
Dungaree liberty - liberty on which men are allowed to wear dungarees; usually called in isolated or uninhabited areas, or when fights are expected or desired.
Duty, the - requirement, when in port, to be aboard and available for watchstanding or other responsibilities; shipboard personnel commonly have the duty every third day while in port, but it can be every second or fourth day, depending on the situation. At shore stations, the duty less frequent. Eight bells - signal traditionally rung at the end of a four-hour watch.
Eight o'clock reports - reports made by all department heads to the XO, who then takes them to the CO. The reports usually consist of equipment reports and position reports, significant events of the day or of the day to come, etc.
Various conditions of electronic silence. Engineer - anyone who works with the ship's propulsion equipment, electrical equipment, or other mechanical devices. Engineer officer - the department head in charge of the engineering department. Sometimes called engineering officer or chief snipe. Engineer Officer of the Watch - the officer on watch in charge of the ship's propulsion machinery. Engineer's bell book - a log, kept in the engineering spaces, of all orders to change speed, stop engines, back down, etc.
Ensign locker - large stateroom with bunks for six or more of the most junior officers. Sometimes called "boys town. Evap - short for evaporator, a distilling unit, aka the still. Used to produce fresh water at sea, both for the boilers and for drinking.
For many years, vacuum "flash" evaps were used; reverse osmosis systems are becoming more common now. Evolution - any activity where all hands, or at least a large number of men, work together to accomplish a specific task.
EX - short for "exercise. Exchange - shore-based Navy store selling all items except groceries;the ship's store is the seagoing version. Groceries are sold at the commissary. Executive officer - the line officer next in rank to the captain. Under the direction of the captain he has entire charge of all matters relating to the personnel, routine, and discipline of the ship. All orders issued by him are considered as coming from the captain.
In case of the absence or disability of the captain, the executive officer assumes command. He is, by virtue of his position, senior to all staff officers aboard. Extend - to lengthen the term of one's service, voluntarily or involuntarily, without signing up for an additional term. Fake down - to lay out a line to permit free running while maintaining seamanlike appearance.
Generally used for large-diameter lines. The line is laid out in long parallel lines, generally starting up against a bulwark or deck edge and working inboard from there. Fast - snugly secured; said of a line when it is fastened securely to a bitt, bollard, cleat, etc. Fender - canvas, wood, rope gear, or old rubber tire used over the side to protect a ship from chafing when alongside a pier, wharf, or other ship.
Field day - a special time to scrub or otherwise clean a ship's spaces. Usually ordered when the CO or the XO thinks morale is low. Fire and flushing water - salt water piped throughout the ship for firefighting and flushing purposes. Fire control - shipboard system of directing and controlling gunfire, torpedo fire, or missile fire. Fireman Apprentice - an E-2 enlisted man, on track to become rated in an engineering rating.
Fire room - on a ship with a steam boilers, a compartment where a boiler is located. First Lieutenant - the officer in charge of cleanliness and general upkeep of a ship or shore station. This is a duty, not a rank. In a ship with a large deck department, the First Lieutenant is generally the deck department head.
Five S's - preparing oneself for duty or liberty; from shit, shower, shave, and shine shoes. Fix - to determine the ship's position by using one or more navigational methods. Flag bag - container for storage of signal flags and pennants; rigged with slots to take the flags' snaps and rings. Flaghoist - a nondirectional means of transmitting signals with predetermined meanings taken from authorized publications. International use consists of 40 different flags and pennants.
Flag officer - an officer of the rank of Rear Admiral or above; so called because he is entitled to fly his personal flag which, by the number of stars it shows, indicates his rank.
Flagstaff - small vertical spar at the stern, on which the ensign is hoisted while in port. Flank speed - a certain prescribed speed increase over standard speed; faster than full speed, but less than emergency full speed. Flashing - a navigation light buoy or lighthouse in which the light is off longer than it is on during its periodic cycling.
The opposite condition is occulting. Flashing light - the term applied to the transmission of signals by light. The equipment used may be directional or nondirectional. Directional transmission reduces the possibility of its interception, thus providing some security.
Nondirectional flashing light permits simultaneous transmission to a number of stations in any direction, but has little security from interception. Flat hat - brimless winter hat worn by sailors until it was abolished about Originally it had the name of the sailor's ship printed on a silk headband. Later the printing was changed to "U.
Even more emphatic is "I hope to shit in the captain's flat hat! Fleet - organization of ships and aircraft under one commander; normally includes all types of ships and aircraft necessary for major operations. Flemish - to coil a line on deck so that it can run freely while maintaining a seamanlike appearance. Generally used for lines of small diameter. The line is laid in a flat, close-coiled spiral on the deck. Flinders bar - on the binnacle , the bar that holds the quadrantal spheres.
Floating drydock - movable dock floating in the water; ships of all sizes are floated into it and repaired. Float test - testing the buoyant qualities of unwanted material while at sea. Material that fails the float test becomes jetsam and goes to Davy Jones' locker ; material which passes it becomes flotsam. Pass or fail, it's outta here.
The related term jetsam applies to cargo or equipment thrown overboard jettisoned and either sunk or washed ashore. The common phrase flotsam and jetsam is now used loosely to describe any objects found floating or washed ashore. Flyboy - a Naval aviator. Often used with the universal adjective.
Flying Bravo - When a woman is having her monthly period, she is said to be flying Bravo. The Bravo alphabet flag is all red. Flying Dutchman - superstition has it that any mariner who sees the ghost ship called the Flying Dutchman will die within the day.
The tale of the Flying Dutchman trying to round the Cape of Good Hope against strong winds and never succeeding, then trying to make Cape Horn and failing there too, has been the most famous of maritime ghost stories for more years. The cursed spectral ship sailing back and forth on its endless voyage, its ancient white-hair crew crying for help while hauling at her sail, inspired Samuel Taylor Coleridge to write his classic "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner," to name but one famous literary work.
The real Flying Dutchman is supposed to have set sail in Forecastle - the upper deck in the forward part of the ship; pronounced "foke-sul.
Formation - any ordered arrangement of two or more ships or aircraft proceeding together. Forward - in, near, or toward the bow the front of the vessel. FOT - Food term: Long form is Foreskins On Toast. Foul - jammed; not clear for running. Also, dirty or unsuitable for use.
Foul bore - in gunnery, a condition where the bore of the gun is not clear for further firing; a shell or casing may be jammed in it. Also, one who, unnecessarily saltily and repeatedly, tells highly uninteresting sea stories.
Foul weather jacket - a warm, water-resistant jacket; the most common item of foul weather gear. Fouled anchor - the fouled rope- or chain-entwined anchor so prevalent in Navy designs and insignia is a symbol at least years old that has it origins in British traditions. A variation of the seal had been in use by the Lord High Admiral of Scotland about a century earlier.
The anchor both with and without the entwined rope is a traditional heraldic device used in ancient British coats of arms. As a heraldic device, it is a stylized representation used merely for its decorative effect. Four by Eight - the to watch. Frame - one of the ribs of the ship. Freighter - a ship designed to carry all types of general cargo, or "dry cargo.
French interrupted screw - type of rotating breech block on large Naval guns; has nothing to do with abbreviated liberty in Cannes. Frock - to temporarily promote an officer, usually because his assignment is suited to a person of the rank to which he is frocked. So called because of their equal comfort on land or under water. Don't fuck with them. Fuckee fuckee - social invitation, usually delivered by a non-English-speaking female in a liberty port.
Sometimes seen as fuckee suckee. As in "I rolled out of my fucking rack, put on my dunga-fucking-rees, and went to fucking chow in the forward fucking messdecks. They had no fucking fresh milk, so I drank bug juice with my mother-fucking collision mats. The man quoted here may not be quite as salty as he thinks he is. Full speed - a prescribed speed that is greater than standard speed but less than flank speed.
Gaff - a light spar set at an angle from the upper part of a mast. The national ensign is usually flown from the gaff when underway. Gang - a group of sailors in a particular rating or work group, such as sonar gang or engineering gang. Gangway - improper word for the temporary bridge connecting the ship's quarterdeck to the pier; more properly called a brow.
Also, a call to get out of the way, which originated as a call for junior personnel to give precedence to a senior while crossing the gangway. The captain is coming. Gear adrift - miscellaneous articles scattered about a compartment.
Generally speaking, gear adrift should be stowed ASAP. General court martial - the most serious trial court authorized by the Uniform Code of Military Justice ; consists of at least five officers, and tries the most serious offenses.
General mess - the main dining area used by a ship's crew. Officers and Chief Petty Officers usually dine separately. General quarters - condition where all hands are manning their battle stations and the ship is ready to fight. Often used prepare the crew to react to a potential emergency.
For example, a ship will call away general quarters for a major fuel or oil leak in the engineering spaces, to prepare in case a fire results. Gig line - on a uniform, a line formed by the buttoned shirt, a crease on the belt buckle, and the trousers' fly.
At a personnel inspection, if your gig line isn't straight, you hear about it. Gimbals - a pair of rings, one inside the other, with axes at right angles to each other; supports a compass or gyro repeater and keeps it horizontal despite the ship's motion. Glit - generic substance good for repairing leaks, breaks, ruptures, etc.
A mixture of glue and shit. Goat locker - Chiefs' quarters and mess. The term originated during the era of wooden ships, when Chiefs were given charge of the milk goats on board. Nowadays more a term of respect for the age of its denizens. Golden rivet - The mythical last rivet which completes a ship. Generally found in the depths of the engineering spaces, a maneuver used to get a female guest to bend over. Gouge - information, especially the "inside scoop. Grease pencil - a pencil with a very thick lead made of hard grease mixed with colorings, used especially for marking on glossy or glazed surfaces; such surfaces are widespread on ships, in the plotting boards, etc.
Ships use lots of grease pencils. In most cases, ships follow a rhumb line. Green water - solid water a swell or wave coming aboard, usually over the bow. Ground tackle - term referring to all anchor gear. Grunt - a United States Marine, especially an infantryman. Aka leatherneck, jarhead, or gyrene. Often preceded by the universal adjective.
Naval Base in Cuba. Guard mail - special class of official mail for the ship, kept separate from postal mail and always handled securely. By definition, the guide is always on station.
Gundeck - to mark a maintenance check as complete without actually doing the work. Aka pencil-whipping, especially when intentionally falsifying logs or records, such as by filling in the blanks just before an inspection. Gunwale - the line where the deck of a ship or boat meets its side. Gyrene - a United States Marine. Said to have come from "GI Marine.
Gyrocompass repeaters - compass cards electrically connected to the gyrocompass and repeating the same readings. Hack - informal confinement of an officer to quarters. An officer so committed is said to be "in hack. Hammock - bluejackets slept on them in ships built before WWII. Replaced by racks in the modern era. Handsomely - said of something executed deliberately and carefully, but not necessarily slowly. Hard over - the condition of a rudder that has been turned to the maximum rudder angle.
Formally referred to as service stripes. One hash mark is awarded for each four full years of service in any of the armed forces. Men with three or more hash marks who have served with good conduct wear gold hash marks and a gold crow. Also used informally to refer to any mark on one's person or uniform, such a gator hashmark , poop stains on one's underwear, etc. Hashmark seaman - a Seaman or Fireman, etc.
Hatch - an opening in the deck, and its closure. Sometimes incorrectly used to mean a watertight door , which is mounted vertically in a bulkhead. Hawser - heavy line, 5" or more in circumference, used for heavy work such as towing or mooring. Haze gray - color of paint used on vertical surfaces of Navy ships. Decks are painted deck gray. In the days of sail, toilet facilities were found far forward in the bows, so that the smell would be blown downwind and away from the ship since sailing ships could not lie directly into the wind when underway.
The extreme fore part of a ship was known as the "beakhead," which may have been shortened to "head" over time. Heave - to pull on a line. Past tense is hove. Also to vomit, as when seasick; see ralph. Heave around - an order to haul in on a line, wire, or anchor chain, whether with power windlass or capstan or by hand.
Heave to - to stop; said of a ship. Past tense is hove to. Similar to the steering wheel of a land vehicle. Though an officer is the helmsman in Star Trek, in the Navy he is always an enlisted man.
The lee helmsman is the standby or substitute helmsman, who usually mans the engine order telegraph. Helo - a helicopter, particularly one that is based on, or delivers something to, or picks something up from, a ship.
Hemp - line made of the fibers of the hemp plant, and usually less than about 2 inches in circumference. Hoist - a display of signal flags on a halyard. Also, to raise a piece of gear or cargo. Holiday - an imperfection or vacant space in an orderly arrangement; an unfinished spot in painting. Holiday routine - daily routine followed aboard ship on Sundays and authorized holidays. Holystone - to clean a wooden deck with a small abrasive sandstone, roughly fitted to the end of a stick.
Also, the abrasive stone itself; a small one is called a prayer book. Before the stick was used, sailors had to kneel as if in prayer when scrubbing the decks. Home port - the city in which a ship is based. Hook - the anchor. Aka tube steak, cylindrical sirloin, or filet of mule tool. Hot rack - timesharing of beds due to a lack of living space aboard ship; when one man leaves his rack, another takes his place there. Hotel services - power, water, and steam used for cooking, heating, laundry, or other non-engineering or non-propulsion purposes.
Hull - the framework of a vessel, together with all her decks and deckhouses, but exclusive of masts, rigging, guns, and all superstructure items. Hull down - said of a vessel when only her stack-tops and mast are visible above the horizon. Hull up - the term for a ship which is sufficiently close that her weather decks may been seen.
INT - spoken as "eye-en-tee. Also used as a phrase in flag or Morse communications. In the drink - in the water; usually said of something that falls there.
International Code of Signals - a communications system, primarily based on colored flags used individually or in pairs. It is used for communications between ships, aircraft and authorities ashore during situations related to the safety of navigation and persons, and is especially useful when language difficulties arise.
The Code is suitable for transmission by all means of communication. Irish pennant - Any dangling or loose thread on a uniform, or lines left adrift or dangling from the upper works or rigging of the ship. Island - the superstructure of an aircraft carrier; it contains the bridge, CIC, flight control center, etc. Jack - small flag similar to the union of the national ensign, flown from the jackstaff on the bow of USN ships when in port; has a blue field and 50 white stars; flown from the yardarm when a court martial or court of inquiry is in session aboard.
Also, to slowly turn the propeller shaft or shafts of a ship when engines are stopped, both to maintain the oil film in shaft bearings and to prevent the shaft from bowing from its own weight. Jacking gear - the machinery used to jack a shaft see jack, above ; may also be used to lock the shaft.
Jack-o'-the-dust - enlisted man serving as assistant to the ship's cooks. Named for the flour of which he is in charge. Jackstaff - removable vertical spar at the stem from which the jack is flown. Jack tar - slang term for sailor. Jacob's ladder - light ladder made of rope or chain with metal or wooden rungs; used over the side or aloft. Television has made heroes out of these people, but they are really just a tiny group of candy-ass pencil-pushing shore-duty pussies who, if they ever got real Navy duty, wouldn't know their asses from a hawsepipe.
Jarhead - a United States Marine. Reportedly, due to the "high and tight" haircut favored by many marines; it looks as if someone put a bowl on the victim's head and cut or shaved off all the hair that protruded. Also gyrene, leatherneck, or grunt. The related term flotsam applies to wreckage or cargo left floating in the sea after a shipwreck. Jews harp - the ring bolted to the upper end of the shank of an anchor and to which the bending shackle secures.
Joy - term used when visual or radio contact is made following a search. No joy indicates a failure. Jury rig - any makeshift device or apparatus. Kapok - a life jacket, so called for the highly buoyant material originally used for the floatation filling. These lifejackets have an orange canvas cover which leaves nasty stains on white uniforms, even when not covered with grease or other crud.
Keelhaul - to reprimand severely. Keel hauling was a shipboard punishment said to have originated with the Dutch but adopted by other navies during the 15th and 16th centuries. A rope was rigged from yardarm to yardarm, passing under the bottom of the ship, and the unfortunate delinquent was secured to it, sometimes with weights attached to his legs.
He was hoisted up to one yardarm and then dropped suddenly into the sea, hauled underneath the ship, and hoisted up to the opposite yardarm, the punishment being repeated after he had had time to recover his breath.
While he was under water, a "great gun" was fired, "which is done as well to astonish him so much the more with the thunder of the shot, as to give warning until all others of the fleet to look out and be wary by his harms" from Nathaniel Boteler, A Dialogicall Discourse, Navy never practiced keel hauling.
Kiddy cruise - an enlistment offered to year-olds, in which their obligated service ceases on their 21st birthday. King Neptune - mythological God of the Sea.
He always presides, with his court, at the line-crossing ceremony. Knee-knockers - the coamings of watertight doors or bulkhead openings, usually about a foot off the deck; so called because they can wreak havoc on the shins of those new to shipboard life.
Knot - a measure of speed through the water, equal to one nautical mile per hour "knots per hour" is incorrect usage, often from the mouths of JAGs , jarheads , boots , and the like. Also, a knob, tie or fastening made with rope. Ladder - any kind of stairs aboard ship; it is a ladder whether it looks stairs or like a ladder. Lagging - fiber glass insulation material commonly attached to bulkheads, ducts, and piping. Lagging paste - food term: Land the Landing Force - Command to begin an amphibious landing, issued by the amphibious force commander.
Landing craft - a boat or similar vessel designed for landing troops and equipment directly on a beach. Landward - toward the land from the sea; also seen as shoreward. The opposite of seaward.
Lanyard - any short line used as a handle or as a means of operating some piece of equipment. Latitude - Distance north or south of the equator, expressed in degrees and minutes. Launch - To float a vessel off the building ways in a shipyard.
Also a type of power boat, usually over 30 feet long. Lay - to go somewhere aboard ship. Lay below , or lay aloft , for example. Lead, the - weight used for soundings.
Leatherneck - United States Marine. Derives from the historical use of a leather collar or stock to protect the neck from saber cuts. Also grunt, jarhead, gyrene. All these terms are frequently modified by Naval personnel with the universal adjective. Leave - authorized absence in excess of 48 hours; the military equivalent of vacation time.
Naval personnel get 30 days leave every year. Let the cat out of the bag - to reveal a secret. Originally, this term simply meant to remove the cat cat o'nine tails from its baize bag, generally preliminary to administering punishment. Level - any partial deck above the main deck. Liberty - authorized absence from a ship or station for a short time.
This is the sailor's valued time ashore when in port. Other than in home port , liberty typically requires men to return to the ship before the following morning. Liberty boat - a boat specially assigned to take and retrieve men on liberty when the ship is at anchor. We still get them sent to us for special occasions from family in Elmira. Remember walking to Kelly's Corner on the Southside for ice cream in the summer. Those seemed like the biggest, best ice cream cones ever! And Pudgie's after football games.
Good times, happy memories! Used to go there after seeing a movie at the Capitol or Colonial Theater. We are hoping you can help. Best pizza in town was Pudgies. Spent time watching my dad make jewelry in his store - some of the best times in my life. I always have had very fond memories. It was really a piece of Americana. I attended EFA for a year.
We used to hang out at Schanaker's Diner after school. After that, I returned and found Sam's and Johnny's. We do come back once a year since my parents and grandparents are buried there. I remember how vibrant the downtown was in the Fifties. Chuck Kennedy, EFA 58 - chuckanzie gmail. John Benedict, Gillette WY - johnabened gmail. Built a lot of Little Red Wagons and Schwinn bicycles.
Worked for Sam Zatcoff and his wife. Never to admit any thing to anyone. What time is it? Then there was always Sam's on Washington St. The Peanut Man around the corner on Main Street where you could get all the peanuts you could ever eat. And near there was Ray's Jewelers and the record shop upstairs where we always went to buy the 45RPM records that were popular during that time.
Wish I still had some of them. Also remember going out Maple Ave to Bradley's to get 13 ears of corn for a dollar and all kinds of fresh vegetables and fruit. How about the white milk wagon that used to be pulled by a horse on the Southside delivering milk year round. Oh to relive those times when things were very peaceful, friendly, honest and life was good. God Bless our parents and friends that helped us survive as well as the teachers that put up with us and tried to teach us everything they new.
We owe everything to them William Dailey, near Hartford CT - banjobilly att. I met and married Rita Layton from Elmira. She graduated from SHS in We lived there from Ice cream sodas at Lovell's just to watch the waiter, who was an artist at his job!
We started our family there. I was told this sign is from the 's's. Can you please tell me if this bicycle store was in business in the 's, and how far back it goes? Many thanks for your patience and very kind attention. Perhaps they will log back in and answer your question or contact you directly via e-mail.
Joyce June, Geneva - joycejune hotmail. Nazareth Academy 64, Rochester. What a nice grandmother she was! Does anyone know anything about Journey's End in Millport? Bill Gannon, Weymouth MA - gannon comcast. Attended EC from Sharon Colbath Carl, North Carolina - howie gmail. Patricia Baker, Elmira Westside - patbaker stny. From I attended Elmira College. Even though the town was tiny, the people were friendly, and it was nice to be able to walk just about anywhere and back in no time.
The very best times were at Christmas, when the lights and stores were exactly what small-town America used to do best. When I returned in the mid 's the stores disappeared one by one, included my beloved Snoopy's Dog House. Fortunately, the best chili and cheese dogs in the world can still be gotten from the Old Pioneer. Elmira College 72 City Now: Always liked Pudgies Pizza. Sam's Bar was always a happening place and then down on Water Street there was a bar called The Office which was a hot spot.
Don Duryee, Rochester - Photo-Edu. I worked at Steele Memorial Library for 4 years during high school. I have many great memories from the days frrom my Elmira dance band " Don Duryee and his Orchestra ". We played for dances at the " Y ", " VOA " and school dances from I just ran across this website and wow what a memory rush.
My grandpa was big in the Eagle Scouts and "The Order of the Arrow" and it was so much fun to see a back yard full of boys when I had 3 sisters! Hard to remember back 40 years. Then of course Sam's Bar was the in place after high school.
Eeeeek my brain hurts.. Picnic Pizza on Water Street lost to the flood. Vick's Barber Shop across from Rossi Lanes. Spent some time at Rubin's Auto Salvage in Southport , among the twisted metal wrecks - still remember how Mr Berman said "don't end up with your car like that". Today, January 26, , I just heard Brian Williams on the weather channel speak about the blizzard about to hit the east coast. He was asked what it was like to grow up in Elmira and he indicated the time Elmira had 37 inches of snow in 24 hours.
It brought back great memories. So, again, how many Flood of 72 Stories do we know? Tom Morris, SHS - tandcmorris live. Pitt's across street by the church that is gone CityNow: Being able to actually buy something usuable in Downtown Elmira.
I think the Flood of 72 marked the beginning of the end. Really showed wisdom of Elmira officials when they tore all the buildings down along Water and State, etc. Well, okay, let's stay positive about our heritage, sports fans - so how many Flood of 72 Stories do we know?
The church referred to above, by the way, was Centenary Methodist, parts of which were donated by parishoners to restore the Whip Building at Eldridge Park now called the Dance Hall. Jack Carpenter, SHS 53 - jcarp sbcglobal. I recall the days at the Sly Street Tennis Courts which were across the street from the Maple Farms Dairy where you could get a great milk shake for 15 cents and a lot of good conversation from Mary Weaver who worked there.
Other fond memories include swimming in Seeley Creek at Webb Mills , days at the Brand Park Pool , going to hear big bands that came through town at the Strand , getting car fixed at Roger Zeliff's , pizza and beer at the Pioneer , pitching horseshoes with George Faulkner , the fun times in the Fairfield Ave.
The name on the sign was Suke's Kitchen , but we always called it "the coffee shop. We felt very sophisticated at 13 years old. We always went to a nearby florist on Miller St. They had a green house off the back of this little storefront and it always smelled divine -- a mixture of fresh earth and natural greenery. Many's the time I had huge curls piled on the top of my head there, as I prepped for a big prom night at the Mark Twain Hotel's Ball Room.
First - I enjoy your site! Great work and a real service. On a preceding page, someone wrote about remembering ordering from the Dixie BBQ speakers.
You indicated their memory might be faulty. About - 60 the Dixie closed for renovations which included the installation of speakers for each car slot. I was the dedicated Carhop just before and after that renovation. Believe me that job got a lot easier after the speakers were put in.
Just thought I'd clarify the record. Keep up the great work! Jim, I stand corrected. Thanks for clearing this up - appears it's my memory that's faulty here - Bill Cook. After that it was Elmira Video which is Time Warner today. Matt's Bar on N. Freddy Vanderg Bar on N. I could go on forever. To me, there were the best that ever was Lisa, Elmira - gleesbo73 yahoo. Retired from Philadelphia area back to Elmira this past May, Mom had all the free perfume samples she could handle.
I remember Dick Whitenhall would play the Organs and Pianos for demonstration. He soothed many a savage beast with his music. I remember going to the Lawerence Diner after Dad and I delivered a piano. They had the best coffee around, but I could never tell Mom because I was only 15 or 16 and coffee would stunt my growth.
Now I'm only 6'3". Ave, on the Southside, now a carwash. They always had the best cold meat in town. The memories never end of my growing up in Elmira. I remember JoyCrest Skating Rink. What fun we'd have there especially on Saturday nites. Nobody can compete with Lovell's sundaes and sodas. Saturday afternoon movies at the Keeney , Colonial or Capitol theaters.
Iszard's was a great place to shop and have lunch at the Tea Room. I went to Edgeworth Elementary School on the Southside. Especially our principal, Mrs. JoAnn, EFA 67 - nserdinow stny. The old Cohen Grade School had a summer program run by Mr. Brown taught me how to make boondoggle keychains and bracelets. It was my first craft project!
I would like to connect with Margie, my 14th street neighbor. Loved the hopscotch and rolly polly that we played along with trips to the 5 and 10 cent store.
Many good memories here. I've retired to Florida, left Elmira Nov. Growing up in the fifties there as a north-sider I spent a great deal of time at Center Street Pool and, of course, Eldridge Park. I lived in Hathorn Ct. There were so many other kids around that, during summer, we could choose up teams and play baseball on any given day at the Fasset schoolyard right across the street. Mostly, I remember the pre-flood of '72 era of downtown. I could go on and on about those years, but I'd love to hear from you who've experienced your own time in that fair city.
One of my four sons works at a well-established business in Elmira. He is, in fact, whereby that enterprise is enjoying such profitability. What a great site. I usually don't have a lot of time to read things like this but today, I did and I am so happy for it.
Growing up in the 50's was the best time. We had the best friends and the best music ever. If you didn't grow up in the 50's, you missed so much.
Remember the "Y" dances with Bob Michaels? Also, calling the radio station at I have seen everything that I remember on this site. Thank you so much for having it. Joe Munn, SHS 65 - jmunn stny. Still an Elmira Southsider.
The City has changed soooooo much since the sixties. Your site brings back a lot of fond memories. Ricky Wright, SHS 78 - stoppedalongtheway cox. Walking home from school and stopping at Rahall's on the corner of Mt Zoar and Fulton. Joy Crest roller skating rink was fun on the weekends when boys wore black skates and girls wore white ones, I guess so you could tell the boys from the girls. Riding the elevator in Iszard's was fun when I was a kid too. I guess some things could be forgotten: It was fun reading what others remembered about Elmira, thanks for the memories.
Dan Steadle, HHS 71 - dsteadle optonline. The memories this site evokes. Danny Discount and Nichols were first discount stores with great toy sections. The Christmas Parade on the day after Thanksgiving ending up at Sears Rossi's Bakery had scrumptious half-moon cookies. Dragon Boat and planes flew over lake.
The Rollercoaster seems tame by today's standards, but scared the beJeezuz out of me then. The myths of bottomless Eldridge Lake. Anyone remember Carroll's on 'Miracle Mile'? Frosties - later became and remains Beefeater's. Then, of course, Thorne Street Pool and dances in summertime. Market and Broad Street School. I remember living for the day that I'd get out of what then seemed a sleepy, even boring little town in the middle of nowhere.
Now after 30 years in NYC area, I can't wait to return. Las Vegas, NV since Just the other day I was thinking about howmuch Hoffman Street had changed. As I walked I would pass: I could spend hours poking around at Lou's National Brands , I believe?
Mike Wurtzman, EFA 63 - spikewurtzy yahoo. Firstly, my parents' businesses. I didn't see them mentioned in these pages! My mother, Sally and my aunt Rhea Shulman at the Campus Corner and a soda fountain in the early Sixties that I'm sure many of you remember. Thanks and I miss Elmira. Thanks for such a nostalgic web page. Mickey Wandell, SHS71 - mwandell25 yahoo. South Side Subs - the best. The Capitol Theater on Sunday's - 25 cents to watch three horror films.
Broadway School - The smoking lounge as we called it. Chuck's next door from the Hi Bar. Are there ANY other small towns that hold such fond memories for the people who grew up there? Such wonderful nostalgia and comfort. We could walk around at 11pm and no one worried. Take off on a summer day with a bag lunch and catch tadpoles and build dams.. I think I'm old! But both my mom and dad spent their adult lives teaching in Elmira--some loved 'em , some not so much, and that was our life--attending games at Parker Field , watching Ernie Davis play basketball in the old EFA gym, playoffs in the Armory.
Wow--I think we were incredibly lucky. Pam Huffner, SHS71 - bugzi48 yahoo. Does anyone remember the Frosty Stein? Jackie Wilson - jacksonita aol. My dad playing softball at Eldridge Park and my mom would take me to the rides after. The Dog 'n Burger ordering 15 cent burgers on a phone. Robert Hall and Danny Discount for clothes. Cheri Smith, SHS71 - greenpointcamp hotmail. The Old Pioneer - when we could drink at 18!!! When I was a child my parents would take me to Eldridge Park where I loved to see the dragon boat!
The park seemed so HUGE to me back then! I would go with my mother to Iszards and that was such a treat! I felt really special when we went in there and had lunch in the Tea Room. In high school, my friends and I would go to The People's Place to buy jeans and all the latest fashions.
I saw Tommy Hilfiger in there once. I still have one of their purple plastic bags with The People's Place logo on it! We used to go! I loved the Twin Tiers! Harold Boyd - hpboy aol. What a site and all those places mentioned brought back plenty of memories. I lived on Westside Ave a few blocks from Eldridge Park. I roamed the park for several years, East Hill where Mark Twain's study was for years. I remember the Reformatory and the years of riding down the hill on sleds and ice skating.
West Hill was where we went swimming in the Reservoir and we roamed nearby Woodlawn Cemetary. I remember the Center Street Swimming Pool , now gone. I remember Ward LaFrance , and also the American LaFrance , on the Southside a block away from where my grandparents had a corner store that catered to the men who made the firetrucks. I lived across the street from Number 10 School and then we got a new one, J.
Sloan Fassett where I went til the sixth grade. We then moved to Millport that summer. Mom and Dad bought a restaurant and motel there. In April every year we had hundreds of fishermen that fished Catherine Creek across the road Route14 there. I went to school in Horseheads til I graduated. To everyone who wrote of their favorite places, I remember many of them. I was home in and how many of these memorable places are history.
Thank you to all that have posted the memories, places. Again, thank you all for the memories. Joseph Potter, SHS 60 - sknyrettop aol. I remember the Keeney Theater , free passes in the popcorn. Lee, EFA 72 - Elaray gmail. I'm now in suburban Philadelphia. The Record Shop on Water St. Victor Webb, EFA 77 - vicwebb charter. I grew up on the Southside, and I remember pizza and subs at Pudgie's Pizza before it became a chain.
I wish to thank them even though most of them are gone now and their families for their friendship and kindness and their influence in helping to make me the person I am today. I will never forget them. Horseheads High School My dad, Martin Phelan, was the manager there for many years. He started working there when he was 23 yrs old and had to retire at 65 due to a back problem. Oh yeah, memory lane. Suzanne Opdyke Ray - gazebo stny. My best friend Patty Tamara lived across the street.
We would either walk or take the bus, in front of my house, and go to the Colonial or Keeney theater every Sunday. I remember walking by the Langdon home, now Langdon Plaza , and thought it to be dark and scary.
We loved the Popcorn Truck before the movie. I loved the Iszard's Tea Room , lunching with my grandmother every week. Loved the'big' Steele Memorial Library.
Thought my church, Trinity , was so beautiful! I took the Pheobe Snow to visit my aunt in NJ. Such an elegant train compared to the old passenger train we took earlier. Went to a wedding reception in the Mark Twain ballroom. In the '40's the family days at Harris Hill for a good game of baseball, quates and picnic all day.
Grove Park for class picnics from GWS. Carr's Cozy Corner for candy. Rossi's Bakery had the best jelly donuts and half moon cookies. I roller-skated to school and all over.
I could tell you where all the 'slate' walks were in town. Ice-skating at Elmira College pond and snow sledding at the Reformatory hill. Skating at the Grotto now Joycrest.
Going to Bolla's soda fountain where Chuck and Junker's was. Going to Parker Field to football games. I remember what a gentleman Ernie Davis was in school. No racism back then. I walked 2 mi. No school buses then. Pork barbque at the PigPen , where Wernicks is now. Also, Hat's Tavern neon lights on the roof, back of what is now Hill's Plaza. I loved ' Green Spot ' beverage in the Heights. Nothing could come close to Lovell's Ice Cream. Well those were the days and the happiest of my life.
Jim Chely Does anyone remember Ace Horsey. He was a photographer by trade and was a regular on the bar scene especially during the 70's. Does anyone remember the saying he had on his business card Myron Finch, Elmira Heights - gold89wing aol. SHS Class of ' Tina Scrip, Salisbury NC - scrippyt yahoo. My father worked at Kennedy Valve for 38 years. My grandmother was the cook, my aunt, the deli and fountain manager and mom, a waitress and I was a cashier on my first job. And watching Christmas parades from my grandmother's hair dresser's shop in a building on Water Street where the River Front Park is now.
EBC Bowling Alley - that was a regular for my family. I so miss ELmira and all it has to offer. My 3 grown sons and their sons live there. I get home once a year to take my daughter to Rochester Strong Memorial for her cancer check ups. Our first stop when we get into town is always Pudgie's Pizza , her favorite. I remember most of the places mentioned and this is a wonderful trip down memory lane.
Elmira is a great place and there are so many wonderful people there. I miss it so much. Thanks so much for this site. Carol Spaziani Edward, Attica - spaz aol. SuSam Cary Channell - smeSamiam yahoo. Horseheads, Elmira Southside City Now: Panama City Beach FL. Church Street while they would shop at Iszard's downtown. Uncle Art gave me my first matchbox, a yellow dump truck. Afterwards we all would go to Banfield Baker's Pet Shop to see the monkey. When I was grown, I hung out downstairs of People's Place Tommy Hilfiger's with my then boyfriend, Blair Savercool, the luthier who created guitars for the stars that came to Elmira College to play.
The parties at Seeley Creek were amazing, but none rivaled the ones off Maple Ave. Fitzben's 25th Reunion was a smash with the Fitzben National Band playing. Other memories include walking the rollercoaster after close at Eldridge Park. Old Frank the farmer up on Veteran Hill in Horesheads probably the last pioneer.
Horseheads town square was paved all in red brick and remained that way for quite some time. My other grandfather, Harold Chamberlain, was the steward of the Elmira Correctional Facility and his wife, Ethel, used to make corsets for the ladies that partied at Rorick's Glen.
Debbie Bement - djbem22 excite. The Red Barn was a favorite hang out during lunch and after school. Went to school at Parley Coburn and Southside. Tina Brand, Elmira - tknoll1 stny. Thomas A Edison High School. I really enjoyed going through all the different places all the people have shared. Was great going back in time! Now I have a question with hopes of someone out there remembering.
In the Fifties it was called Tastee Freeze. Diven Plaza years back had a few stores that were in the same building as Barker's Department Store , anyone know what stores went into the former Barker's after it went out? I do remember Cavaluzzi's Pizza as I was growing up. Oh boy, that was awesome! I remember a pack of cigarettes in the machines was 55 cents wow!!
Postage stamp 6 cents. Gas 39 cents a gallon. Jim Samuels - james. The annual autumn ping-pong ball drop, sometimes from a helicopter, sometimes a small plane, in the Grand Union Shopping Plaza. During the contest a group of individual's known as Murphy's Marauders went about replacing the 'L's throughout the region driving the radio station frantic as listeners called in saying the had found the 'L. Frances Scheid Osteen, Elmira - Lenore aol. Swimming in Seeley Creek down Maple Ave. Does anyone remember the name?
We believe that was MacGreevey's at E. Elmira was a great place with lots to do and a wonderful downtown. One of my best memories is of all the foot traffic downtown. Don't forget Brand Park Pool , another great place to swim. Jimmer Donovan, HHds - jdon aol. Every place on this site I remember.
I grew up in the Sixties - had more fun on North Side 8th Ward. We did so much without any money - still had a great time - baseball, football, basketball, swimming in Newton Creek.
Showing off for the girls at Center St. The Cobalt brochre and owners manual didinot provide specifi model info either. Anyone have a pdf of the manual or know how to set it up properly? I wonder if anyone might be able to give me a bit of advice… I have a with a Volvo 5. I am getting a pretty stead drip inside the boat, that lets in approximately gallons in an hour.
When i spoke with my mechanic, he seemed to think that it was probaly theseal between the y-pipe and the transome plate? He indicated that the motor would have to come out to replace. Is this a common problem? Could the leak be related to the shift problem? Its probably on Lk Chelan. I have a 17BR. The main circuit breaker on the dash panel has begun to pop.
The faster I go, the sooner it pops. The dealer suggested replacing the circuit breaker which had some corrosion but he did not know the rating of the breaker. Does anyone know what the amperage should be? Sorry I have no solutions. One question, did the breaker from the dealer match esthetically with the others?
James, The circuit breaker looks the same. The new one is marked with the amperage but the old one was not. Their current products are marked. The wire going into the breaker is 12 gauge and I see sites on the internet that say 12 gauge wire corresponds to a 20 amp breaker.
Hey Joe, Who is the manufacturer? I may be interested in replacing the breaker before I sell the boat this spring. I have the old breaker in front of me.
It is an ETA series Used on Lake Charlevoix. In Boyne City, Michigan. Stored on covered shore station and in private storage condominium. Where can someone find specs on an OLD Cobalt? I am curious how much my boat weighs? I am trying to get a ballpark of what it weighs…. Ok, I promise I looked around before posting this.. Take it by a place with vehicle weigh scales, like a landfill.
Offer the guy 5 bucks to weigh it for you. Any ideas on where to find one? Does anyone have a — if so, what kind of trailer are you using? We found a great deal on an awesome boat and we just need to find a trailer.
There are lots of places that make those: Are you still happy with the results? I need some advice. After all, I live in Indiana. Even a Cobalt dealer told me this! I also realize that fresh water has been used to cool engines for decades. I have no experience with the Volvo but my boat does have a closed cooling system. Someone from Florida calls and asks if it has a closed cooling system.
You say no, he cannot buy your boat. Oops, no closed cooling system. Well, I answered my own question. That engine includes a closed cooling package. Thanks for the input. It would be a waste of money. Or contact Cobalt directly www. The West Marine do not fit and I do not like to drill extra holes. The lower rung of my ladder snapped off when I was beached on an island. My direct email address is scottjspidallas msn. I am a Cobalt dealer in Austin, TX. I can answer many questions regarding the boats, and if you are in my are, and looking for a nice used Cobalt, there are a few to be had.
I am not trying to SPAM, just offering free advice, unless someone in Austin is interested in a boat, and I will help out if possible. Good luck to everyone!
Daron, Are you with Boattown? I posted yesterday that I recently purchased a Cobalt I had Boattown change the oil and do a quick check. As long as it is engaged, forward or reverse, no growl. They topped off the drive fluid, but said everything else was normal. Second, my instrument lights are very, very faint.
Is this by design or am I likely missing a bulb or adjustment. Thanks in advance for the assistance, D. I just found out that over the winter someone broke into storage and stole my stero,telescoping aft light and the emblems from both sides and the L and T.
I can replace stero locally but where can I find light and insignas besides cobalt? They are outragous on their procing. Thanks for any help, Paul. It could be unrelated, but we have had problems with this engine before due to water that inevitably drips into the engine compartment whenever the hatch is opened.
I have a Cobalt with a 7. Any questions, I can be contacted directly at paul. Review Figure 1 a. Get an oil pump extractor, Figure 8. Via the engine yellow tipped dip-stick, connect one end of the oil pump extractor hose directly to the dip-stick on the engine, Figure 1.
Pump the oil pump extractor handle a few times to create a vacuum. The oil will start to flow into the container. Drain all oil from the engine estimated time: Once the oil seems to be drained, then unscrew the oil filter, Figure 1 Location: As the oil filter loosens, the engine may now have excess oil in the pan, perform step b to ensure as much of the old oil is removed.
With all oil out of the engine, re-apply a new oil filter, not forgetting to lube the bottom filter gasket before beginning to screw back on. Run engine for 5 minutes so that the engine is warm. Add fuel stabilizer to fuel tank b.
Run engine for minutes so that the engine is warm, then turn off engine Note: Always closely monitor engine operating temperatures, for proper impellor cooling water pump supply operation. Do not operate above RPM on garden-hose adaptor, Figure 2. One has to get creative for this next part. Some people use a garbage bucket, I like using a modified gasoline container. Modified gasoline container method to fit a Stern drive intake garden hose adapter: Take a piece of 4 foot garden hose and secure one end of garden hose to the output of the gasoline container, yes one may have to cut the hose so it can slide into the container.
The water pick-up ports on a stern drive and outboard are both located on each side of the lower unit gearcase. Then set the gasoline container filled with cooling fluid up high, a rear swim platform works great. Get into the boat. At the engine, and one at a time, disconnect the cooling hoses at the engine main intake Location: Top- Front, single point where all hoses are connected together. Again, remove top of hose and then direct hose downward, so that all water drains out of the hose.
Then reconnect all hoses. Figure 5 one can further elect to remove and drain water from all accessible drain plugs on the engine block, there should be 4. Use a high-temp silicone to coat the mating surface thread to truly have a seal between the brass freeze plug and the wall of the engine.
This is a two-person job With the cooling hoses reconnected one person start the engine and let it run. This procedure is for a fuel injected engine, 7. Your boat engine should never be turned on again until next season. If it is, and it should be, upright the hose so one can pour more fluid into it.
The other hoses can be dry, if they are dry meaning empty just fill them up with pint coolant until they are fill until all hoses are full of pink coolant. Estimated gallons of pink coolant is needed.
Be careful this container maybe filled with fuel, no smoking at this point. Then reattach the filler to the circulator pump housing. Change the lower unit Gear Oil a. Go to Stern drive and locate the lower unit drain plug, unscrew it and let the oil drain down into an oil pan, Figure 4. Once the oil is stopped draining, then unscrew the upper unit drain plug at the top of the stern drive, then more should come out. Once all oil is out prepare qts of gear lube oil d.
Using a lower unit hand pump attach the pump side to the individual qt of gear lube, for it will screw on. Still Figure 6, and then, take the other side of the pump which looks like a thin plastic tube with a plastic screw head, and screw it directly into the lower unit drain plug location. Setup, the Figure 6 hand pump is connected to the qt bottle and screwed into the lower unit drain plug screw location.
And, the upper unit screw is not screwed in, most likely sitting on the ground. Then begin pumping the gearlube into the lower unit, continue pumping until the gear lube started draining out of the upper unit screw location. Then screw back in the upper unit drain plug, figure 4.
Be careful not to mix up the upper and lower drain plugs, one can tell them apart because one is smaller shorter than the other, some stern drives do use the same drain plug for both which is nice.
It is ok if some gear lube falls out during the switch. Top-right side, behind the oil filter, see figure 1 8 Finalize Engine for Storage a. Using a can of Quicksilver corrosive preventer spray, simply spray down the entire engine, metal, hoses, and wires. I am looking at a Cobalt with a Volvo V6 with a penta.
Does anyone have any experiences with this boat. Does it run out ok. Looks like alot of boat for a V6. I will pull a skier and a tube. Thanks for your help.
I bought it used about 2 months ago and have a couple of question. There is a void between bulkheads where your feet would be. So if your are feeling movement or flexing I would have a look under the floor.
I had had water intrusion through the screw holes that hold the teak on the deck, and through the well that the windshield goes into and small leaks at the outer corners of the windshield, it went down onto the floor under the deck and through the floor at the screws that mount the foot boards to the floor. The whole area under the seats forward to the first bulkhead from the bow was affected, along with 3 bulkheads and 2 stringers.
Thanks for yor reply. I am not sure how to get past the floor in the ski locker to look underneath. How would I remove the ski locker to look underneath? Sorry to take so long to reply. It looks sort of like this under the floor; [IMG]http: James, I have been bracing the floor on my 17BR around the ski locker door and I should replace it. How difficult was it to remove the floor? Do you have instructions that you follow?
Joe, Only difficult in the sense that it is a fair bit of labour. I had to virtually gut the interior then cut the glass around the perimeter where it joins the hull sides and then try to shovel out the rotted parts and pry like hell on the sound parts to get down to where I could replace the rotten underpinnings.
I am a millwright by trade and used to such work, it just took a fair bit of time. As can be seen in the pic. I then glassed over and around all the unglassed areas to seal it all in securely. I put as many as 5 coats of resin onto the repaired areas to bond it as homogenously to the existing structure as I could. I then did the similar procedure to secure the floor. I cut the floor in 3 section, fitted, cut fitted, cut until they would just drop into the correct orientation then epoxied both sides and the edges.
When I put them in I epoxied the top edges of the mating stringers and bulkheads and the corresponding areas on the underside of the floor then dropped them into place and screwed them down with plated drywall screws. I have a from Big problem is the wood dash is faded. Is this an overlay that we can just peel off? Anybody had any luck refinishing the dash?
Im a new Cobalt owner, recently purchasing a Cobalt I couldnt be happier with the boat but ran into someone that was trying to tell me that Chris Craft makes a higher quality boat? I hadnt done any research on Chris Craft expect hearing they went bankrupt back in ?
How does Cobalt quality compare with Chris Craft? Jeff— I couldnt agree with you more. I researched the Cobalt for almost 4 years before I pulled the trigger! Im just looking for someone that knows about Chris Crafts so I can throw some shit back in my friends face..
I also looked at Chris Crafts before buying my Cobalt Cobalts are the best-designed, best laid-out and tip-top-quality boats, and you pay A LOT to get that, and most everybody knows it.
Your best bet to match a original interior is to go to a custom shop and have them do it for you. I have also heard of Cobalt sometimes being able to at least get the material for you, but you would have to have a dealer look into that I have seen this done where you cannot tell the difference.
If you want a really nice , check out http: They are helping a customer sell his br. I do not know the details, but know the owner is very open to offers. Have a in immaculate condition for sale. What products do you recommend to protect the gel coat?
I have heard that 3M products are the best followed by Meguiars. What would cause the tilt gauge on the dash from not working? I just bought my first boat. It is a cobalt inboard outboard hp engine. It runs very well. The paint is faded and the carpet needs to be replaced. The seats are original but look brand new. It was well taken care of, kept in the garage or covered when in the lake. I live in Clovis Ca. I would like to have the boat painted but Ido not want to pay an arm and a leg.
I called Maaco but they do not paint boats. I know the performance suffers a bit but I recently heard the ethanol eats the fiberglass tank. You need to check with either Mercury Marine or Volvo whichever engine you have to find out. I have a and the windshield frame was rechromed and is completely corroded.
Does anyone know of where I may purchased a used frame that I may re-chrome or powdercoat? I have a it has a mercury power shift unit on her. Do I need to get a specific engine control that will mate up with the mercury power shift unit? I purchased a teleflex CH and I did not see any where on the unit to bolt up the m. I have a Cobalt that I keep in the northeast — I just hauled her and the gauges had some moisture inside them foggy.
This is a common question….. They are designed to let moisture in and out…. We have a two year old This summer was the first time we left it in a slip, fresh water lake. We recently removed the boat from the lake and are struggling with getting the white hull clean again. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you for the suggestion. Now looking to find something to put on hull prior to putting in the water so the muck doesnt stick to it at all.
Seems I saw something about a product but cannot remember what it is called to save my life. I just purchased a Cobalt 21BR with a Merc. Can anyone help me with a complete description of how to winterize this boat.
Any step by step and or pic would be great. And maybe what to look for items. Thanks, Tom McArthur St. I have been looking online alot and have been unable to find one.
If you locate a site please let me know. Is the toobig to ski behind? We are not fanatical skiers but like to slalom ski and pull kids etc. Any input would be appreciated! Tubing will be OK, but still pretty rough. I thought skiing and tubing were supposed to be fun?! Wakeboarders may love a nice, slow ride though, with a huge wake.
You can do it, but for skiing smaller, lighter boats are better. I have a Cobalt with only hrs. Happy to answer any questions or send more info and pictures if you are interested. We have a and absolutely love it! We use it to ski and pull the kids around. The key is to order a longer rope. The way is big but if you get a bit more distance from it is does very well. Many thanks for your comments! It is hard to find the right size of boat to both ski behind and party on..
I may have to look at something smaller perhaps. I have a 19BR that is having a problem of stalling. It runs great for about an hour. When I power down after an hour and then put it in gear in the foward or reverse postion it stalls. The next day it runs fine for about an hour and then it starts the whole process over.
I have noticed that the engine temp is high when I go and try to start it after it has stalled I have also noticed that when the water tempature drops in the fall I do not have any problems. I have been letting the engine idel for about 5 minutes before I shut it off to lower the engine temp. I think it may be the water pump. Does this sound right or is it something else? Chris, This is a condition common to older Mercs.
It has to do with misadjustment and wear of the throttle cable and the ignition interupt switch, that you should find on top of the engine in front of the distributor. The switch momentarily interupts the ignition to allow smooth shifting out of neutral.
There is a web site with a good explanation of how to diagnose and adjust the switch, really quite straight forward actually. I have the web site on my other laptop that is in the shop right now being healed. It sounds like vapor lock,your carb. Pull off a couple of cooling hoses and have a look inside the engine,and see how much corrosion. You could have scale build-up causing bad water flow in your water jackets. If this is the case you need a good cooling system flush to clean out those ports and jackets.
Same thing happen to me last summer. Any auto parts store has it. Need to replace points at the same time. Just like old points and condensor on old cars. My local Cobalt dealer has a and a Cobalt 24SX for sale. We looked at a 24sx last year. It had everything we wanted and was a gorgeous boat. It was also a great price. We bought a instead and love that boat! The specs say it only will work on a single layer fiberglass hull.
Does anyone know if the 17BR hull is single layer or double layer or what? Any opinions on the shoot through the hull vs. Hello, I am looking at buying a with the 8. Does anyone know what the approximate top speed would be on this boat? I need to get some type of lock to be able to lock my engine compartment. The lock would prevent the engine compartment from being able to be opened.
Does anyone know of a source I might obtain that from? A third party source? I believe it would have to be something I modify and that might not be attractive. A pad lock might need to be involved. Does anyone have any thoughts? Does anyone know what were the most popular Cobalt models or lengths over the past ten years? What were the most popular Cobalt models or lengths more recently?
I have a Cobalt , First real full size boat I have owned…. The is a great boat! I just sold mine a year ago…. I did a full custom convertible top and enclosure…the shop that did it is closed but I use King Marine in Ballard now…. They will be able to match the material and build it the way you want it. I have a with a Any help would be appreciated. Call Corsa Performance Exhaust they have an easy web site to manuever around and very helpful service techs. They walked me through identifying the part I needed for mine.
Hi I just registered to this exceptional place mycobalt. I want to ask for your opinion. Can you tell me please do you make money with forex and if yes what forex dealer do you use? Do you know of some reliable ones? I would also prefer walk-thru transom, bimini top and extended swim deck. Anyone know someone looking to sell such a boat? Please check my listing and let me know if you are interested. The only option it does not have that you are looking for is the extended swim platform which is easy to put on.
I have model that I would consider selling. It has every feature yuo mentioned except an extended swim platform. E-mail me if you want to discuss. Also what was the last year the was built? I am looking to replace my moring cover for my cobalt BR Where is the best place to get one with side ties? Hi, I have a bow rider with a radar arch. Previous owner removed and through away! I know , also trying to find the cushion to fill in the bow area.
Boat has black strips and black canvas. Any help or information would be greatly appreciated. Dealer says its obsolete and no longer available. Hi, I am in Mexico Cancun, and recently I bought a Cobalt , with engine originally — serial and a transmission Volvo Penta, which was broken and I changed for Bravo 3 with propella pitch Here is very difficult to test with 26 or 28 propellers, the dealers do not have.
I have to buy the correct pitch, please help me to make the correct choice. I am restoring a Condesa. Even a picture with some measurements would help. I have 1 bracket out of 4. I can fabricate if necessary. Have a machine shop but want to be as close to original as possible. Please get back with me with any information. He is going to take some pics of the of the hinge setup on the seat fold down. If you could clarify then hopefully he can help with that too. Thanks James, I spoke with the Cobalt factory in Kansas and was told I can operate the hatch without the Coil-Wire switch which is at the front edge of the cabin hatch that acts as a extra safety to insure it shuts off when it touches it but if I can find one, I want to install it.
I will buy you a beer if your friend is able to help. Jay, Here are the links to the pics you requested, he believes that maybe yours is different style as they are different years, but here goes.
I have some pieces 1. I am redoing a Cobalt Previous owner did not take care of this boat. Needs new engine compartment blower duct, if anyone out there has the same boat and can snap some pictures of how I am to route these ducts I would greatly appreciate it. My email is emaounis gmail. Hey Pete, You can get me pics of the engine compartment seat that is on the sliding base and folds flat for my 79 Cobalt Condesa?
The Leather is faded with the outline of these but not sure how the swing arms connect. I have fabricate the exact angles but wanna verify they are all mirror images of the other. Does anyone know where I might find this? Even my Cobalt dealer has been unable to help. I just bought a and am thinking about purchasing a GPS for the boat.
I was told by the dealer that they sell a GPS that fits perfectly in the pocket to the right of the steering wheel. Does anyone have pictures of what the installed GPS looks like?
I am also looking for any advise on which GPS I should purchase for the boat. In order for it to fit you will need your dealership to install the optional faceplate…it replaces the one that is installed now. Otherwise you can just mount it to the winshield upright with a clamp style mount. The factory suggested in-dash mounting is behind the steering wheel and obscures the view of the GPS on our I mounted a Garmin on to top of the dash between the instrument cluster and the windshield support with the included dash mount.
I did cringe about drilling holes for screws in the top of the dash, but it looks nice, and is highly visible by operator and passengers. We trailer our cobalt and the GPS has been great for driving to unfamiliar launch ramps, and we can safely take slow evening cruses on the water — navigating in the dark is a snap.
How do I know what the right price to pay for the Cobalt? This has been discussed at some length on other forums over the last year or so. The markets for cars, boats, houses in the US are pretty flat. What this means is that despite what NADA, BUC or any other lists might say, the only right price is the one that the buyer and seller agree upon. If you are in a big hurry to buy and the seller is in no hurry to sell, the price goes up. Vise-versa and the price comes down.
Moral, go to the dealer, look as uninterested as you can, make an unenthusiastic low-ball offer as you can and see what happens. I assume it is the sender. I heard these are Faria gauges? Can I replace the sender?
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